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Post subject:new shop
 Posted: Jan 14, 2005 - 12:44 AM #2267
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Joined: Aug 01, 2004
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Location: new jersey
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| new shop. looking to buy equipment .is tinknocker brand any good? |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jan 14, 2005 - 01:04 AM #2268
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Joined: Jun 30, 2004
Posts: 68
Location: Nationwide
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| I believe that it is an imported line of rollformers. We have had great luck with Flagler rollformers in our coil lines. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jan 14, 2005 - 03:02 AM #2270
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Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Posts: 289
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| Tinknocker and the many names that they stamp on that crap is produced in Vietnam. My wife was at the northern New Jersey Vetrans home to day trying to place her father a WW2 veteran. She told me that half the guy she met there were Vietnam era vets. Missouri before you buy that garbage think of sixty thousand Amarican kids that will never get the chance to ever see the internet. RIP, Bob |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jan 14, 2005 - 11:54 AM #2273
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Joined: Dec 14, 2004
Posts: 201
Location: Illinois
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You get what you pay for.
Last time I checked, some of it was made in America (things like brakes) and some of it was not (the rollformers).
That may have changed. All of it used to be made here.
It is hard to see what you are getting for your money sometimes. There are lots of really old Lockformer and Flagler machines out there that still work- even with poor maintenence. How many old TinKnocker machines do you see?
This country would be much better off if we all bought American whenever possible instead of looking for the cheapest. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jan 14, 2005 - 12:37 PM #2274
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Joined: Feb 29, 2004
Posts: 117
Location: Midwest, USA
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missouri:
I would have to agree with the posts above. You would be far better off with20-30 year old Lockformer, Pexto, Flagler to name a few than a brand new import. They just are not built the same and time will prove that they won't hold up like the old tried and true machinery.
Just my two cents. |
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Post subject:thanks
Posted: Jan 15, 2005 - 12:54 AM #2278
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Joined: Aug 01, 2004
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Location: new jersey
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| thanks for the help.some supply house's in central jersey stock these machines, and i am under a budget but still want a quality product that will last and made in USA .you guys made it easier. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jan 15, 2005 - 02:12 PM #2279
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Joined: Dec 14, 2004
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Location: Illinois
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If you are searching for used equipment, give ebay a try. There are plenty of used machinery sales places there. Chances are good that someone will have for sale what you want to buy.
Some supply houses around here also sell used equipment, but they charge way too much for what they are offering. The auction houses generally pay less than $.25 on the dollar for common used equipment when a shop gets liquidated. Ebay is a great equalizer. Unless it is a specialty or rare item, half of new cost is a good place to be.
It is good to have an idea of what you are looking for sells for used and new, some people get caught up in the auction fenzy and pay too much.
Buying a used Lockformer or other machine doesn't help the economy as much as buying a new one, but it is better than buying a new import. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jan 16, 2005 - 12:02 PM #2289
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Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Posts: 289
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| Missouri, Give Dennis Hado a call. He’s the New Jersey Lockformer rep amongst a zillion others. He’s just plain honest people. Hado Machinery 908-561-7272. North Plainfield NJ. I’m on Ebay four times a day looking for goodies but lately the prices they are biding are insane. I think a lot of people are under the impression that you will always get a bargain there and anything could be farther from the truth. Also you might want to give SW Anderson Supply a call in Hackensack 201-487-1119. I always see flyers stuck up for small shops selling stuff locally. Hope this helps, Bob Luland |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 15, 2006 - 12:37 AM #4935
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Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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Location: San Diego, CA>
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| I don't think it is wrong to buy imported products and I don't think it even hurts the economy overall. Marketing all of that crap is big business in the U.S. I do think that it would be wrong for ME to buy anything made in Vietnam (my stay 1968-69). I don't want to buy anything from Germany or Japan either. Korea is out too. I guess buying gasoline made from Iraqi oil is unavoidble in the U.S. Sorry, I just had to add my two centavos. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 - 06:54 AM #4957
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Joined: Mar 16, 2006
Posts: 27
Location: Calgary canada
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| Interesting, not buying anything from a country which was one an enemy to the United States. I, myself perfer not to buy tools and equipment from the one country that has used WMD on civilian population, ie women and children. In my opinion, there really is only one WMD. any guesses. As far as Gemany goes, they do take pride in their workmanship and quality, as much as Japan does. Me, If I could, I would only buy Canadian, that is true workmanship and quality. Brown Boggs, in my opinion, is still the best, (although no longer made). If you look through the shops in canada, you can still fing almost everyone has brown boggs. But thats my two cents CDN. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 26, 2006 - 10:16 AM #4958
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Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Posts: 179
Location: edinburgh
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| Hi folk this has become very political ,i bet tinman had wished he'd never asked the question in the first place ,come on folk as our old pal John Lennon said ...Give Peace a Chance. awe ra best [in a very 60s mood ]Marky |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 26, 2006 - 12:07 PM #4959
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Joined: Sep 03, 2003
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Location: edinburgh
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| [quote="marky"]Hi folk this has become very political ,i bet tinman had wished hesorry it was Missouri who had asked the original question [still in a loving mood ]Marky |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 26, 2006 - 11:32 PM #4961
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Joined: Mar 16, 2006
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Location: Calgary canada
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well, I do not want to get into any political debate, that's for sure. I mean If I wanted to get all political I would find a forum which feeds on stuff like that.. I ment no disrespect to anyone, and I do wish to appologize if anything that I may have said was taken out of context.
I am here to talk tin, not trash. |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 26, 2006 - 11:42 PM #4962
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Joined: May 13, 2003
Posts: 1354
Location: Waukesha
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| Yes Tin, but it is good to hear other view points as well. Thanks all for contributing! |
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Post subject:RE: new shop
Posted: Jun 27, 2006 - 01:07 PM #4963
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Joined: Sep 03, 2003
Posts: 179
Location: edinburgh
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| SORRY if i upset anyone by using the old political word ,what started off as a question about a manufacturer [of tools ]seemed to veer of into a tangent whether a countries past made it a viable soarce of tooling or not .Marky |
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