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Post subject:marking guage/scratcher question
 Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 02:04 PM #2523
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Location: delaware, usa
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stanley used to make a marking guage that was adjustable, up to 4"
it had 2 posts, graduated in 16ths, with a pin on the end, and they were secured by a knurled screw as they passed through a cast plate. it's kinda hard to describe what i mean. anyhow, they stopped making them, and i really liked them. i have seen them for wood, and was wondering if any of you folks knew of a similar product that is still available. i have christmas trees, but i hate them. i have made some out of small pieces of stainless, but new guys always throw them away thinking they are scrap. what do you guys use? |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 02:35 PM #2525
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| What the heck is a "christmas tree"? I use an adjustable gauge made by Malco (short for malcontent?) that is double ended with one half of the gauge a sliding adjustable piece that is secured at the desired width by a set screw. One of these adjustable pieces on each end of the gauge allowing you to have two set scribe widths on one piece. This is a different gauge than the one that uses a sheet metal screw for a scribe point. Othere than that, I make gauges for standard widths ( 1/2, 3/4, etc) one on each corner of a rectangular piece of stout scrap. Sounds like a perfect training opportunity for you to teach the new guys just what is going on. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 02:39 PM #2526
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No, no, no. I don't mean "secured with a set screw". I meant to say the adjustable side of the gauge was secured with a thumb screw.
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 03:00 PM #2527
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Malco makes one similar, but I prefer the Mc Marker by McKay Brothers Inc. There out of Wichita, KS. I'll get a picture up in a bit. They used to cost about 25.00 (1 year ago) Their phone # is 316-838-8411.
The designer of this is a contractor himself. From what I know, he's retiring soon from contracting and will be using these to supplement his income. They're worth every penny,my opinion, even if they did go up in cost a bit since then.
McKay Brothers
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Post subject:Marking gauges
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 05:28 PM #2531
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| Here is a picture of the gauges I was trying to describe earlier. They are marked Cain Manufacturing, Birmingham Alabama, not MALCOntent. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 10:49 PM #2536
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steve2 wrote:
Here is a picture of the gauges I was trying to describe earlier. They are marked Cain Manufacturing, Birmingham Alabama, not MALCOntent. Malco makes the "Christmas tree" scribe the gentelman was reffering to. Check the Malco site and you will see what I am talking about. Mc Marker is good stuff. Malco makes another scribe that has a range from 1/4" to 12 " thats the one I use. I do use the Cain's version if its handy. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 11:01 PM #2537
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| If I understand right, this is the christmas tree. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 11:09 PM #2538
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| I want to order the one Steve has. Ok where from? The tree looks handy as well. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 06, 2005 - 11:13 PM #2539
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| We get those scribes like Steve has from local supply house. I think they are just a few bucks. I will gather some up and send them to you. They are made a couple hundred miles north from me. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 07, 2005 - 01:33 AM #2541
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| Chrismas tree was free at one time. One in every boxof every thing DD made. The problem with all above is the face plates are not hardend. Just run any of them down a plasma edge. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 07, 2005 - 04:24 AM #2542
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| Yes in fact they must be close to you, Pricer. They don't cost too much. Maybe you can line us all up for some. The ones I make (which are sort of like the christmas tree) are always free. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 08, 2005 - 03:08 AM #2543
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steve2 wrote:
Yes in fact they must be close to you, Pricer. They don't cost too much. Maybe you can line us all up for some. The ones I make (which are sort of like the christmas tree) are always free. I will see what I can round up and let you know something soon. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 09, 2005 - 03:48 AM #2545
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we use those scribes in our shop. its a stanley #91. matter of fact theres one on ebay now. item# 6153044933. since they no longer make these we sometime buy them on ebay.
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 13, 2005 - 11:48 AM #2556
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Bud wrote:
Malco makes one similar, but I prefer the Mc Marker by McKay Brothers Inc. There out of Wichita, KS. I'll get a picture up in a bit. They used to cost about 25.00 (1 year ago) Their phone # is 316-838-8411.
The designer of this is a contractor himself. From what I know, he's retiring soon from contracting and will be using these to supplement his income. They're worth every penny,my opinion, even if they did go up in cost a bit since then.
McKay Brothers
3738 N. Seneca
Wichita KS 67204
yes! that is what i am looking for! i saw the actual stanley one on line, i was gonna bid on it but the price is already about at the limit i would pay for one used in great shape. the mc marker is cool, i will call them and get some.
thanks for the heads up, one and all. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 15, 2005 - 06:33 PM #2565
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We actually bought some single markers with the graduated posts (dont recall where we bought - McMaster Carr maybe) and took our old stanley to a machine shop and had them replicate us 3 or 4. Used the posts out of the ones we bought in the machined bodys.
Otherwise, yes, I too occasionally search ebay for good deals on these markers |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 - 12:36 AM #2580
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| I just got the McMaster Carr scribe. It is made General. The scale is a bit hard to read for me, bu I am sure in time, after a bit of wear, it will read just fine. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 - 03:15 AM #2584
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I'm all for the X-mas tree scribe..Made mine from stainless and added a 1 3/8" for pittsburg and a 1/4"
for 1/4" bend..Handy as a pocket on a shirt for laying out fittings...One horse town/no plasma or water jet 
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Nov 08, 2006 - 12:25 AM #5482
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We have several of the Stanleys, though we used to have lots more (they disappear over time :/ ). We did the same thing with the Generals from McMaster Carr and a machine shop fabricating a double poster. Did find someone making a double poster though:
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Nov 11, 2006 - 04:01 PM #5498
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| I like the Wimco scriber myself. |
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Post subject:RE: marking guage/scratcher question
Posted: Nov 12, 2006 - 03:38 PM #5501
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We have a few of the durodyne "christmas tree" type scribes laying around the shop. As Bob pointed outm they used to be free in rolls of flex connetor. I choose to do what Bordontn says and make my own out of 16g stainless scrap. It tales two or three minutes to layout and cut, and they last a while. We have ones that range from 1/4" up through 4" I believe.
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