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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 01, 2004 - 02:15 AM #1113
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Thanks, hat do you know about Cleco pins? Did I say that right? I get the feeling that I may need a few.

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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 01, 2004 - 02:36 AM #1115
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Cleco's are an excellent tool for holding metal in place while setting for up riveting multiples.
Go for it. That too is a good tool to have.
I remember seeing them for years, and thinking-- naw, not worth the $$. I then saw a fellow mechanic use one for metal roofing flashings. I then had to ask. He told me that he swears by them, and wouldn't be caught dead without his. That was enough for me.
That also is something you should be able to get off of Ebay. If not, go to the web site that I'd sent you.
Again.... not an inexpensive tool if you get them brand new.
Since you're going for the high end tools, another tool of value-- for many things, os the short reach right angle drill. They are made by an outfit here where I live-- about 9 miles north of me.
United Air Tool.
PM me, and I'll give you the link.
If Bud approves it, go ahead and post the one that I send you.
I used this mechanics' that I mentioned above for doing tight rain gutter. Talk about a sweet deal. I previously used a 6"- 12" #30 bit to drill through both the front and back of the gutter-- at the same time. This short reach angle drill allowed me to drill only the back.
Again.... a pricy tool. They start out at $100 and up. Ebay might have one. Ok, I've looked on Ebay. They do have some, but not the same one's as I'm talking about.
I typed in "aviation angle drill."
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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 01, 2004 - 02:57 AM #1116
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Thanks for all the help. I am sure I will have more questions just give me time. LOL

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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 01, 2004 - 11:01 PM #1123
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The Clecos hold the panels together with spring tension inside the pin. There is another type made by Avdel. You don't need a special installing tool as there is a little thumb wheel on them to apply the closing pressure. They are a little more time consuming but give a positive tight join.

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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 03, 2004 - 11:31 PM #1146
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Hello All, My countersink cages came in today. I did not realize it but I have purcased three. They are of very high quality, they do not have bits. Where would I buy the bits? Mobile Aerospace is in my town, they refurbish large commercial aircraft. There should be an air craft supply place near me. I will need to dig into it tommorow. Are the bits universal? I understand how it is ajusted. It looks like the bits thread into the cage.

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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 04, 2004 - 12:36 AM #1147
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The bits are usually standard 1/4" shank.

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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 04, 2004 - 01:53 AM #1148
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What is the best and most accurate way to layout the pitch of a rivet. Would it be to take a narrow strip of metal and drill a series of holes that represent the pitch? Clamp the jig plate onto the part and use a prick punch to mark the holes?

One of the counter sink cages looks like it has 3/8" threads and the two small ones have 1/4" threads.

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Post subject:RE: Pop Rivets (Sheet Metal Boats) PostPosted: Jun 04, 2004 - 05:58 AM #1157
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Price,

The main problem is accumulative error. With the type of work you are doing the method you suggest would work fine. Most of the guys that do this all the time mark the ends and work towards the centre using a pair of dividers, measure the overall every foot or so and adjust the dividers to take out the error.

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